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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 5th, 2011, 2:19 pm
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And when the 80cm guns get in range the "yankys" are doomed.
Of course they are ... because they are so good AA guns. :roll:
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Not really too many more than it is accurate, considering the number of SAMs she has along with the guns. Anyway, she would almost definitely have some of those carriers in the earlier posts escorting her too. As for an Essex class carrier countering this, I doubt they would be able to get many planes through the screen that would be formed around the (pride?) of the Kriegsmarine. And those that get through will have to deal with all of the little variables that come around when making a bombing or strafing run. The thing is a big target, but with an equally massive escort. Whatever the Americans throw at this can easily be countered by the German equivalent.
Maybe, but yanks have more experience with carrier operations. That would be good fight but still one Task Force can send 400 attack planes, how many with others ? We have in Poland saying: Even Hercules is ass when people in mass. ;)

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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 5th, 2011, 2:20 pm
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No ship would be able to be NEAR her when she fired off those main guns...the blast pressure would probably crush a DD!

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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 5th, 2011, 6:27 pm
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All good fun chaps, and fullmarks for another flight of fantasy; so sorry to have to pull down on various trouser legs as some of you begin to fly away.....But :cry: In a real world, these monster battleships would never ever get built, and if any country was daft enough to do so they would soon find a lot of valuable steel on the ocean floor. The entirely useless (in real terms) Japanese super-battleships were the closet thing to this idea, and I'm just glad they were built as it helped shorten WWII :lol:

And just to remind us, Hitler was fundamentally an idiot, with not a jot of knowledge or understanding of how to conduct a global war; and again, it would have been just so sweet if he'd built a monster battleship at the cost of more U-boats; that too would have shortened the war :D
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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 5th, 2011, 7:42 pm
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Portsmouth Bill wrote:
And just to remind us, Hitler was fundamentally an idiot, with not a jot of knowledge or understanding of how to conduct a global war; and again, it would have been just so sweet if he'd built a monster battleship at the cost of more U-boats; that too would have shortened the war :D
He did just that, good Sir, twice- imagine what Dönitz could have done with another 70,000 tons of U-boats had Bismark and Tirpitz not been built.
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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 5th, 2011, 7:58 pm
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But would that of still hastened up the designs of the XXI and other more advanced types of U-Boats?

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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 5th, 2011, 8:05 pm
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But would that of still hastened up the designs of the XXI and other more advanced types of U-Boats?

It risks further dilution of the experienced crews which lowers effectiveness.

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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 5th, 2011, 11:36 pm
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First this ship is pure megalomanic fiction, no way it could exist. Please keep this in mind by discussing about it.
Then, if we think of a hypothetic existence, of course it would be protected by an armada of escorting cruisers, destroyers and carriers. A thingy, worth themilitary budgets of the whole world wont be left alone.
And finally, sure the other nation would invent an effective weapon to destroy the menace. It would be the unstoppable nightmare for maybe five years until its countered.

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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 5th, 2011, 11:41 pm
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Portsmouth Bill wrote:
All good fun chaps, and fullmarks for another flight of fantasy; so sorry to have to pull down on various trouser legs as some of you begin to fly away.....But :cry: In a real world, these monster battleships would never ever get built, and if any country was daft enough to do so they would soon find a lot of valuable steel on the ocean floor. The entirely useless (in real terms) Japanese super-battleships were the closet thing to this idea, and I'm just glad they were built as it helped shorten WWII :lol:

And just to remind us, Hitler was fundamentally an idiot, with not a jot of knowledge or understanding of how to conduct a global war; and again, it would have been just so sweet if he'd built a monster battleship at the cost of more U-boats; that too would have shortened the war :D
One of the best comments I've read lately. Thank you, Bill!

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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 6th, 2011, 7:47 pm
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Tangent Split to here.

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Post subject: Re: Kriegsmarine 1946, second approachPosted: November 7th, 2011, 1:22 am
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Actually, one question does come to mind: What are the massive helicopters on the stern of the H45? Or have I skipped a page or something earlier in the thread...

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