I will post drawings in her, they would not be sorted by year.
The T3201 test tank. build only 7. version for testing different equipment. The 7. version was equipped with the strongest engine ever mounted in an tank in Haram. a 2100 hp engine.
![[ img ]](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/88748209/Haram/D3201.PNG)
![[ img ]](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/88748209/Haram/Lince%20%28B%29.PNG)
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| Author: | heuhen [ October 30th, 2013, 9:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | AU Haram FD. |
I will post drawings in her, they would not be sorted by year. The T3201 test tank. build only 7. version for testing different equipment. The 7. version was equipped with the strongest engine ever mounted in an tank in Haram. a 2100 hp engine.
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| Author: | heuhen [ October 30th, 2013, 9:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AU Haram FD. |
WIP The Bulldog with 130mm Howitzer ![[ img ]](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/88748209/Haram/Howitzer%20buldog.PNG)
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| Author: | eswube [ October 31st, 2013, 5:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AU Haram FD. |
These are very nice drawings (but that's not a surprise), though top-view of T3201 lacks some details from side-view (like smoke grenade dischargers on the turret). But the "b-side" description, esp. 2nd paragraph about the 180mm artillery piece is painful to read. Two things - in the context of "large" artillery "gun", "howitzer" and "gun-howitzer" have particular meanings and I have a suspicion that You don't quite see the difference between them. Also "mountains" and "tanks" (in the 1st paragraph) don't go well together. 
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| Author: | heuhen [ October 31st, 2013, 5:42 am ] | |
| Post subject: | Re: AU Haram FD. | |
These are very nice drawings (but that's not a surprise), though top-view of T3201 lacks some details from side-view (like smoke grenade dischargers on the turret).
I have just put on my glasses and see that I have to rewrite the entire text But the "b-side" description, esp. 2nd paragraph about the 180mm artillery piece is painful to read. Two things - in the context of "large" artillery "gun", "howitzer" and "gun-howitzer" have particular meanings and I have a suspicion that You don't quite see the difference between them. Also "mountains" and "tanks" (in the 1st paragraph) don't go well together.  :- the details, that lacks in the top-view. they was added at last... and thus failed to be updated on to the top-view. - I am not happy with that text to, late in the night and just wanted to get the text finish, before going to bed is never a good idea. - The howitzer, was designed for an self propelled gun armed with an howitzer. I have to rewrite the text so it comes out a bit more clear. - Oh that mountains, I could have write occupied or hilly company, but mountain had a swing in my head at that time. hm. yeah funny that. |
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| Author: | eswube [ October 31st, 2013, 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AU Haram FD. |
Generally "self propelled gun armed with a howitzer" is called "self propelled howitzer". In practice of English language "(artillery) gun" describes something that shoots at relatively flat trajectories ("direct fire" - more or less "straight ahead") - like anti-tank, anti-aircraft or long-range artillery for example (and that includes also majority of naval artillery), and "howitzer" describes something that shoots at very angled trajectories ("indirect fire" - for example to targets that are covered behind something). Gun-howitzers tend to combine features of both. Anyway, I'm looking forward to see further drawings in this thread. 
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