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Caddaric79
Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: May 13th, 2014, 6:45 pm
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I think it's better with crews

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K.St.N.1176 (1.11.1943)

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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: May 13th, 2014, 8:26 pm
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Wonderful!! Personally I would like to see German Organizations in 1940-1941.


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Caddaric79
Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: May 13th, 2014, 8:43 pm
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I work on "Panzer Division 43" and "schwere Panzer Kompanie/Abteilung" from 1942 to 1945.
In some years perhaps ! :lol:

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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: May 13th, 2014, 9:17 pm
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Hi Caddaric,

I have a question, if that's OK?

Most of the Gruppenfuhrer are shown with one pistol / NCO (I think "unteroffiziere" is NCO? My German is so bad these days...) - however, for the "Funker im gp.kw." ("Funk" is radio, I think so that's the radioman?), it's consistently (at least in 1. Zug, 2. Zug and 3.Zug) as one pistol for two NCOs? Can you explain why? Apologies if I've missed something really obvious...

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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: May 13th, 2014, 10:13 pm
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No, there is a lot of handwrite mods in the orignal wartimes documents, but in this case, it's a bad copy/past from commander's Richtschützen ! :oops:
There is 20 men, 20 handguns in each Zug as write in the sum (+ 1 submachine gun and 2 machine guns by tank)
My apologies.

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adenandy
Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: May 14th, 2014, 3:40 am
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Caddaric, I think your vehicles and men are perfectly wonderful mate but, sorry to be a pain in the arse and all that, but to enable me to enjoy them to the full extent I think they're worth, is there any possibility of labeling them in English please? The last time I did any German was at school, and to say I'm a little rusty would be an understatement in the extreme.

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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: May 14th, 2014, 10:50 am
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Adenady this will help
From the Nigzer List 943GQCP this is what the English list states
German Army Authorized Strength Heavy Panzer Company "Tiger" (Freie Gliederung)
1 November 1943
Formation A, found in independent Heavy Armored Battalions
Staff
1 Company Commander (&Tank Commander)(officer) 1 pistol
1 Panzerführer (Tank Commander)(NCO) 1 pistol
2 Gunners 2 pistols
1 Radio Operator 1 pistol
2 Tank Drivers 2 pistols & either
2 Tiger Tanks, Sd Kfz 181 (88mm 36 L/56) or 2 Tiger Tanks, Sd Kfz 182 (88mm 43 L/71)
3 Motorcycle Messengers 3 rifles & 3 350ccm motorcycle, 1 with sidecar
1 Radio Operator 1 pistol 2 Loaders 2 pistols
1 Driver 1 rifle & 1 light four seat passenger vehicle (volkswagen)
1 Bicycle (not identified to whom it was assigned)
1st Platoon:
1 Platoon Leader (& tank commander)(officer) 1 pistol
3 Tank Commanders (NCOs) 3 pistols
3 Gunners (NCOs) 3 pistols 1 Radio Operator (NCO) 1 pistol
4 Tank Drivers 4 pistols and either
4 Tiger Tanks, Sd Kfz 181 (88mm 36 L/56) or 4 Tiger Tanks, Sd Kfz 182 (88mm 43 L/71)
1 Gunner no personal weapon
3 Radio Operators 3 pistols
4 Loaders 4 pistols
2nd Platoon: same as 1st Platoon
3rd Platoon: same as 1st Platoon
2
Vehicle Maintenance/Spare Crews: 5 NCOs, 28/27 soldiers, 23/22 rifles, 10 pistols, 4 submachine guns, 1 LMG, 3 light
four seat passenger vehicle (volkswagen), 1 2-ton truck, 1 3-ton truck, 2 4.5 ton trucks, & 2 Sd Kfz 10 half tracks
Field Train:
7 NCOs, 17/15 soldiers, 15/13 rifles, 9/8 pistols, 2 submachine guns, 1 light machine gun, 2 light four seat passenger vehicle (volkswagen), 1 3-ton truck, 4 4.5 ton trucks, & 1 bicycle
Baggage:
1 NCO, 3 soldiers, 4 rifles & 1 3-ton truck
Totals:
Warrant
Officers Officers NCOs Soldiers
Troop Command 1 - 6 7
1st Platoon 1 - 11 8
2nd Platoon 1 - 11 8
3rd Platoon 1 - 11 8
Vehicle Maintenance - - 5 28/27
Field Train - - 7/6 15/13
Baggage - - 1 3
Total 3 - 53/52 79/76
Formation B, a single company assigned to a Panzer Regiment Add to field train:
2 NCOs, 10 drivers, 10/8 assistant drivers, 1 3-ton truck, 3 4.5 ton fuel transport
trucks & 6 4.5 munitions trucks
Records of Headquarters, German Army High Command, National Archives Microcopy
No. T-78, Roll 393, American Historical Association Committee

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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: May 14th, 2014, 10:17 pm
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Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: May 15th, 2014, 4:41 am
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Caddaric79
Post subject: Re: FD scale - World war II German organisationsPosted: May 15th, 2014, 5:10 am
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Thank you guys,

@adenandy: I hope graham's post is enouth for your understanding, as he sent his source, because I will not translate the whole division in English ! (Time-consuming)

@graham: I gess the company can not be "freie Gliederung" style when it has maintenance troops and field train attached

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