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heuhen
Post subject: Re: FD TrainbucketPosted: July 9th, 2014, 11:50 pm
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Now back to what I was talking about:

just to show the most obvious Photoshop in the picture.

Green: The are similar, just copy and past, you can see how smoke and water marks from tear and wear have run down the hull, and they are similar. (even when you study every pixel of it)

sky blue: this two wheel set is totally the same, if you study them close you can see that the light reflection is the same.

darker blue: the forward tank over the forward drive boggy, is the same as the one aft for it. copy and paste.

Red: here you can easily see that this area have gone trough a lot of copy an past. the tank is bend in a weird and unnatural way, the walkaway have some bend on it to that doesn't fit the rest of the locomotive. even some railings in that area suddenly stops, and reappear a tad later on the hull, workers need something to hold on to.

if you look close on the tender you can easy see that it have gone trough copy and paste at least three times in each end, due to the shading in the paint are similar three times over.. even the fire pit looks Photoshoped twice.

The dark green line show how the locomotive looks like from above, if we look at how the light falls on the train, but also how it looks 3D ways.

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And the same here:
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There is one story going around that bosses in Union pacific during a Christmas diner and was drunk, was talking a lot of nonsense and drawing something down. and there it goes.

many years later someone pick that story up, but there is no drawing from that "party" so that person think a bit, how could that train be looking like... then he do as we all here in Shipbucket have done many times, either official in shipbucket or on the private. for example look at me and the Super Nansen class work I did...


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Post subject: Re: FD TrainbucketPosted: July 10th, 2014, 4:28 am
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The 'real' Big Boy 4014 going home to Cheyenne for restoration to operational condition:

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 640&nseq=7

Together with appropriated numbered EMD diesel 4014 and 4884... get it? :-)

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Post subject: Re: FD TrainbucketPosted: July 10th, 2014, 7:38 am
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there are several videos of it on YouTube. Since they are filming everything they do I think there will at some point be an documentary on it.


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Post subject: Re: FD TrainbucketPosted: July 10th, 2014, 10:23 am
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Hi Emporer_andreas,

There were actually steam trains with three sets of driving wheels, however, the third set was usually under the tender (this set, which didn't exhaust through the blastpipe at the front, made no contribution to the boiler's draft and these locos were generally quite slow) - the Big Boy's construction, particularly, wouldn't permit 4-8-8-8-4 with all of the drivers under the frame, as the first '8' pivot to clear turns - so unless there's a pivot in the rear drivers (and then a support to hold up that part of the boiler) it's going to tear up the track as it goes along, I suspect...

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Adam

edit: Gaah, idiot, it wasn't heuhen that I was responding to...

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Post subject: Re: FD TrainbucketPosted: July 10th, 2014, 12:38 pm
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they was not a succes

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Post subject: Re: FD TrainbucketPosted: July 10th, 2014, 1:12 pm
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Hi Morten,

Indeed not, though I'm still not sure if that's due to the relative size of the boiler (the mentions about low speed would probably indicate poor steaming) or that 1/3 of the steam (as an approximation) isn't used for getting a draught across the fire (or a combination of both).

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Post subject: Re: FD TrainbucketPosted: July 10th, 2014, 3:19 pm
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Morten812 wrote:
The 'real' Big Boy 4014 going home to Cheyenne for restoration to operational condition:

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 640&nseq=7

Together with appropriated numbered EMD diesel 4014 and 4884... get it? :-)
Can't wait until it's operational...wish they'd send it on a coast-to-coast tour when it's finished, with a stop in my town!

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Post subject: Re: FD TrainbucketPosted: July 10th, 2014, 3:37 pm
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apdsmith wrote:
Hi Morten,

Indeed not, though I'm still not sure if that's due to the relative size of the boiler (the mentions about low speed would probably indicate poor steaming) or that 1/3 of the steam (as an approximation) isn't used for getting a draught across the fire (or a combination of both).

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Quote: "The type was not considered a success. No more were built."

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Post subject: Re: FD TrainbucketPosted: July 10th, 2014, 5:24 pm
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Morten812 wrote:
apdsmith wrote:
Hi Morten,

Indeed not, though I'm still not sure if that's due to the relative size of the boiler (the mentions about low speed would probably indicate poor steaming) or that 1/3 of the steam (as an approximation) isn't used for getting a draught across the fire (or a combination of both).

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Quote: "The type was not considered a success. No more were built."
If I remember correct, that one was split in two, to an: 4-8-8-2 and a 4-8-2


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Post subject: Re: FD TrainbucketPosted: July 11th, 2014, 1:51 am
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Screw U.P. ! Southern Pacific's 4449 is the prettiest large steam locomotive in history!

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