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Krakatoa
Post subject: Re: The Deutschland Class RevolutionPosted: July 7th, 2015, 7:09 pm
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Added the description of "The Battle of Vinh Nguyen" to the drawing of the HMS Warrior 1943.


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Post subject: Re: The Deutschland Class RevolutionPosted: July 11th, 2015, 8:29 am
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I love the Tiger Class.
The raised turret version looks the best to me, I don't quite see the low Y turret version working as the hull depth is a little too shallow for a 9.2in loading system.
My only criticism would be the exposed torpedo tubes abaft X turret.

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Post subject: Re: The Deutschland Class RevolutionPosted: July 11th, 2015, 12:23 pm
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Hood wrote:
I love the Tiger Class.
The raised turret version looks the best to me, I don't quite see the low Y turret version working as the hull depth is a little too shallow for a 9.2in loading system.
My only criticism would be the exposed torpedo tubes abaft X turret.
Updated the AA layout, gave it the looks of the HMS Belfast armor scheme, removed one crane, giving her a centerline crane, and relocated the torpedo tubes.

Tiger Class:

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I was looking to move the superstructure, or rather, the bridge forward, but even with Rowdy's original PSD file I just got hopelessly bogged down.

Numbers, based on the 1940 Lillicrap design:

Displacement: 21,500 standard, 25,500 tons full load
Dimensions: 710 x 84 x 25 feet
Machinery: 4 shaft, Steam turbines 160,000shp
Speed: Max 33.5 knots
Endurance: 11,000 at 16 knots
Armour: 7" belt, 4" deck, 8" turrets
Armament:
9 x 9.2" (3x3)
12 x 4.5" (6x2)
50 x 40mm (3x6 8x2 16x1)
Torpedoes: 8x21"
Aircraft: None
Crew: 1150

It's intended companion, the Broadsword Class Destroyer:

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Displacement: 3,030 standard, 4,030 tons full load
Dimensions: 408 x 43 x 13 feet
Machinery: 2 shaft, Steam turbines 62,000shp
Speed: Max 33 knots
Endurance: 9,000 at 16 knots
Armament:
5 x 4.5" (2x2 1x1)
12 x 40mm (3x2 6x1)
Torpedoes: 10x21"
1 × Squid A/S mortar
Crew: 297

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Post subject: Re: The Deutschland Class RevolutionPosted: July 11th, 2015, 12:35 pm
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That looks better Miho,

Should there be another radar at the top of the after mast?


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Post subject: Re: The Deutschland Class RevolutionPosted: July 11th, 2015, 1:00 pm
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Krakatoa wrote:
That looks better Miho,

Should there be another radar at the top of the after mast?
No radar, it's already got everything it needs, but I did add a HF/DF antenna to the rear mast, because the ship really needs it. Also added the Broadsword class destroyer to that post.

I might think of a riveting tale about hunting Hokkaido Class cruisers...

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Post subject: Re: The Deutschland Class RevolutionPosted: July 11th, 2015, 3:37 pm
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Looks perfect and 50 Bofors is perhaps among the most potent anti-Kamikaze AA fit you could possibly get.

Myself, I might sacrifice four twin 40mm and fit 2-3 Mk VI secondary DP directors with Flyplane and Tallboy barrage computers. Right now the dakka is there but the fire-control is probably not up to the task.

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Post subject: Re: The Deutschland Class RevolutionPosted: July 11th, 2015, 4:12 pm
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Hood wrote:
Looks perfect and 50 Bofors is perhaps among the most potent anti-Kamikaze AA fit you could possibly get.

Myself, I might sacrifice four twin 40mm and fit 2-3 Mk VI secondary DP directors with Flyplane and Tallboy barrage computers. Right now the dakka is there but the fire-control is probably not up to the task.
I might, but then again, nothing is perfect :D

But hell, out of all the directors the British had, which one is it on the sheet?

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Post subject: Re: The Deutschland Class RevolutionPosted: July 12th, 2015, 9:04 am
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The big one with the twin dishes at the front and the cockpit windows (looks like a garden shed). Listed as 'Mk VI' on the RN radar sheet. As used on the Daring and Town Class refits after the war if that helps further.

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Post subject: Re: The Deutschland Class RevolutionPosted: July 12th, 2015, 9:48 am
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Hood wrote:
The big one with the twin dishes at the front and the cockpit windows (looks like a garden shed). Listed as 'Mk VI' on the RN radar sheet. As used on the Daring and Town Class refits after the war if that helps further.
Ah, right, that actually was developed at the very tail end of the war, right?

Would using two Mk VI negate the need for HACS completely, or would that still be required? British fire controls of the war period are a dark secret to me :D

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Post subject: Re: The Deutschland Class RevolutionPosted: July 12th, 2015, 11:38 am
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Yes it would. I think two would suffice, maybe a third aft but I can't see room for one aft. Four would be too heavy.

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