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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: November 13th, 2015, 12:13 am
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FANTASTIC work BB :!:

Well Done matey :D

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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: November 13th, 2015, 3:07 pm
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Good work Bb, as expected :)


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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: November 27th, 2015, 2:46 pm
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I'd noticed that the existing V class were wrongly scaled, that plus the realisation that 16 horrendously expensive SSNs was just too much of an unjustifiable number. So, now. Now there are six boats.

As before the interesting points are

• Comprehensive non-acoustic sensor suite
• All-round sonar coverage
• EM and IR signature reduction and management systems
• Fly-By-Light control surfaces
• Deep-submergence rescue suits and capsule

Agasaya Class Submarine

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Type: Agasaya Class Fleet SSN
- Double-hulled Ti Boat
- Contemporary to Seawolf and Yasen Classes
Displacement:
- Nominally 8,000t - 8,550t
Length:
- 106.7m
Beam:
- 13.75m
Draught:
- 9.1m
Propulsion:
- Nuclear (Emergency AIP)
- Fourth Generation Pb-Bi LMFR for ~200MW (Thermal) - 35MW Steam Turbine -
- 12x PEMFC Fuel-cell arrays producing up-to 1,620kW
- 750kW Manoeuvring / emergency-propulsion device.
Speed:
- 5 Knots on emergency propulsion
- 20 Knots surfaced
- 28 Knots submerged silent
- >35 Knots operational maximum
Test Depth
- 600m
Operating Depth
- 500m
Crush Depth
- >1000m
Range:
- Essentially unlimited - No refueling expected during life of class
Endurance:
-120 days
Complement:
- 72 (28 officers and 44 enlisted)
Accommodation
- 90
Armament:
- Six 660 mm torpedo tubes and eight multipurpose silos for the following:
• MBDA Spearfish wire-guided heavyweight torpedoes
• Boeing TseTse Fly Hypersonic Multi-Role Missile
• Boeing Sea Lance Anti-Submarine Missile
• Boeing LRCSW LO Cruise Missiles
*50 Weapons (Torpedo Room)
*32-40 Weapons (Silos)
* 4 of 6 660mm tubes are usually lined to 533mm.
Countermeasures:
• Elbit Systems SHADE suite (Torbuster - Subscut - Scutter)
• Towed acoustic decoy (2x)
• Mast Mounted ECM + ESM
Sensors:
- Thales Underwater Systems Integrated Sonar Suite (Type 2076 hybridised with S-Cube)
• Spherical Bow Array
• Chin Array
• Sail Arrays (Front and Rear)
• Planar Flank Array
• Distributed Array (Ranging)
• Thin-Line Towed Array
• Self-Noise Monitoring Hydrophones
• Non-Acoustic Sensor System
- Non-Penetrating Sensor + COMMO Masts
• Photonics Mast 1 (ESM Atop)
• Photonics Mast 2 (MAWS Atop)
• COMMO Mast 1 (SATCOM - Secure Datalinks)
• Radar Mast (Sharpeye X Submarine Radar)
• COMMO Mast 2 (Secure Datalinks)
• COMMO Mast 3 (Secure Communications)
• Snorkel Mast

That's all for now. Carry on.

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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: November 27th, 2015, 2:48 pm
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Nice work Bb, bigger is better :D

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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: November 27th, 2015, 3:27 pm
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Hi Blackbuck,

The sub looks really good. However, a question - given the difficulty the Alfas had once reactors were shut down, the entire reactor essentially freezing solid, would there be some sort of large-capacity hatch near the reactor spaces to allow removal of the frozen core in the event that it does become necessary to shut the plant down?

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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: November 27th, 2015, 3:43 pm
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I'd imagine there would indeed be the ability to remove the core in event of an emergency shut-down freezing it but that's something that has to be taken into account when using LMFRs. The main reason for going with them here is the increased power per given density and relatively small size of the plant itself.

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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: November 27th, 2015, 4:37 pm
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Hi Blackbuck,

Well, the soviet union seemed to think they were worthwhile at the time, difficult to imagine how big a more normally-powered sub would be to reach that speed. I was more referring to the drawing - have I missed said big hatch or is it not there?

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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: November 27th, 2015, 4:39 pm
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Bb; you know I'm your fan. You've exceptional talent to details and forms. So, how in hell you'll fit that amount of weaponry (50 in torpedo room???) in that? You're teasing/testing us, aren't you ? :)


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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: November 27th, 2015, 5:19 pm
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apdsmith wrote:
Hi Blackbuck,

Well, the soviet union seemed to think they were worthwhile at the time, difficult to imagine how big a more normally-powered sub would be to reach that speed. I was more referring to the drawing - have I missed said big hatch or is it not there?

Cheers,
Adam
Seawolf is roughly the same size but on a PWR with a comparable output if you believe the figures bounced around, so the >35kt max. would seem justifiable, maybe even slightly conservative.

As for the core removal, it is there in the reactor section but seeing as there's no top-down view there's no way to easily illustrate it.
sebu wrote:
Bb; you know I'm your fan. You've exceptional talent to details and forms. So, how in hell you'll fit that amount of weaponry (50 in torpedo room???) in that? You're teasing/testing us, aren't you ? :)
The same way they do on the Seawolf. Automated loading rooms and magic pixie dust. :twisted:

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Post subject: Re: The Federal Monarchy Of Tol GalenPosted: November 29th, 2015, 12:46 am
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Now to finish the re-scaled submarines the SSGNs. :o

Built after the Agasaya class along many of the same principles, the Revenge class of multi-role submarines replace converted SSBNs in the conventional-strike and special operations roles.

Revenge Class Submarine

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Type: Revenge Class SSGN
- Double-hulled Ti Boat
- Contemporary to Ohio SSGN conversions
Displacement:
- Nominally ~12,000t
Length:
- 137.1m
Beam:
- 12.25m
Draught:
- 9.1m
Propulsion:
- Nuclear (Emergency AIP)
- Fourth Generation Pb-Bi LMFR for ~200MW - Shaftless Electric Propulsor
- 24x PEMFC Fuel-cells producing up-to 3,240kW
- 2x 750kW Manoeuvring / emergency-propulsion devices.
Speed:
- 5 Knots on emergency propulsion
- 20 Knots surfaced
- 25 Knots submerged silent
- >30 Knots operational maximum
Test Depth
- 600m
Operating Depth
- 500m
Crush Depth
- >1000m
Range:
- Essentially unlimited - No refuelling expected during life of class
Endurance:
-120 days
Complement:
- 90 (32 officers and 58 enlisted)
- 50 Special Operations Personnel
Accommodation
- 150
Armament:
- Four 660 mm torpedo tubes and eight multi-purpose silos for the following:
• MBDA Spearfish wire-guided heavyweight torpedoes
• Boeing TseTse Fly Hypersonic Multi-Role Missile
• Boeing Sea Lance Anti-Submarine Missile
• Boeing LRCSW LO Cruise Missiles
• 533mm Delivery Vehicles
*50 Weapons (Torpedo Room)
*56 Weapons (Silos)


Autonomous and Unmanned Platforms:
• Dry/Wet Shelter for 2x SDV or similarly sized AUV/UUVs
• Stern tube for SDV or similarly sized AUV/UUVs (Swimout 533-660mm capable)
• Deployment and retrieval of 533-660mm platforms via Saab SUBROV
• External attachment spigot for interfacing whilst on operations

Countermeasures:
• Elbit Systems SHADE suite (Torbuster - Subscut - Scutter)
• Towed acoustic decoy (2x)
• Mast Mounted ECM + ESM
Sensors:
- Thales Underwater Systems Integrated Sonar Suite (Type 2076 hybridised with S-Cube)
• Large Aperture (Conformal) Bow Array
• Chin Array
• Planar Flank Array
• Distributed Array (Ranging)
• Thin-Line Towed Array
• Self-Noise Monitoring Hydrophones
• Non-Acoustic Sensor System
- Non-Penetrating Sensor + COMMO Masts
• Photonics Mast 1 (ESM Atop)
• Photonics Mast 2 (MAWS Atop)
• COMMO Mast 1 (SATCOM - Secure Datalinks)
• Radar Mast (Sharpeye X Submarine Radar)
• COMMO Mast 2 (Secure Datalinks)
• COMMO Mast 3 (Secure Communications)
• Snorkel Mast

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