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aercastro82
Post subject: Re: Portland class cruisersPosted: November 2nd, 2017, 4:19 pm
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Colosseum wrote: *November 2nd, 2017, 3:51 pm
Sure - I mean, unfortunately we will likely never know FOR SURE what the underwater hull looked like except via plans like that (or by ordering microfilm from NARA and examining it, but a lot of times the originals are long gone). We can usually get a "close enough" estimate that looks good and makes sense based on what we know to be true - in this case, I doubt the hull openings changed much as time went on (though I could be wrong) - and the sea chests were probably identical on Portland and Indianapolis. Until we find evidence that suggests otherwise, we're fairly good to just "assume"... but this comes with the territory. ;)
It is true but I would rather follow your advice.

I just checked the Friedman's and Baker's book.
They look really good books.
I appreciated for sharing this source to me.
Also the links are great help.
Thanks again.
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aercastro82
Post subject: Re: Portland class cruisersPosted: November 7th, 2017, 11:06 pm
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Final update.

Thank you members for the helpful information.

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24" searchlight added on main mast.
Updated smoke stacks.
Extended flag pole at the bow.
Updated bottom hull.

WIP...
New Orleans class
CA-38 USS SAN FRANCISCO
CA-39 USS QUINCY
CA-44 USS VINCENNES


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Post subject: Re: Portland class cruisersPosted: November 8th, 2017, 3:00 pm
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Nice work - looking forward to the New Orleans class. ;)

I love that you also use the ModelWarships.com forum as a reference... some of the best sources I've found have come from the researchers over there. Keep up the great work.

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Post subject: Re: Portland class cruisersPosted: November 8th, 2017, 6:19 pm
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The New Orleans-class is next? SWEET!

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Post subject: Re: Portland class cruisersPosted: November 27th, 2017, 1:41 am
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I just learned that USS PORTLAND in November did have an SG radar in November.
Possibly installed at Pearl Harbor with the USS ENTERPRISE around September just after the Battle of Eastern Solomons in late August.

According to her War Diary of November, SG radar is briefly stated on the PORTLAND:
http://taskforce67.tripod.com/ca33.htm
The members of ModelWarships.com forum also helped for clarification.

So I decided to once again revise this ship.
Hopefully the last time unless more mysterious object appears.

I posted two different dates for the PORTLAND.
There are small difference between them but I just drew them anyways.

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No Mark 44 Gun Directors and the tub for it on Navigation Bridge.
No Mark 4 Fire Director radars for the Mark 33 Gun Directors.

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Yes Mark 44 Gun Directors and the tub.
Yes Mark 4 Fire Director radars.
Yes SG radar at foremast.


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Post subject: Re: Portland class cruisersPosted: November 27th, 2017, 2:20 am
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Very nice work!

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Post subject: Re: Portland class cruisersPosted: November 27th, 2017, 4:33 pm
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Very nice work!

A couple of minor points; I feel that some of the weld lines on the superstructure are a little too prominent. The 1.1" quads seem to be painted in a different measure and the railings are non SB standard. Finally, maybe the degaussing cable needs a shade underneath. :-)
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Post subject: Re: Portland class cruisersPosted: December 2nd, 2017, 7:05 am
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Charybdis wrote: *November 27th, 2017, 4:33 pm
A couple of minor points; I feel that some of the weld lines on the superstructure are a little too prominent. The 1.1" quads seem to be painted in a different measure and the railings are non SB standard. Finally, maybe the degaussing cable needs a shade underneath. :-)
Thanks for the information.
Yes, it looks more better like you said about the shade underneath cables.
I made the changes.
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Spike
Post subject: Re: Portland class cruisersPosted: December 25th, 2017, 3:54 am
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Deleted - will contact Colo with question shortly.
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Colosseum
Post subject: Re: Portland class cruisersPosted: December 25th, 2017, 10:39 pm
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After Spike pointed out a discrepancy in length, I went back and rechecked these drawings and discovered that my versions of Indianapolis and Portland are out of scale. I originally measured the waterline length of Indianapolis, and then scaled the overall length of my sample plans to that waterline length. Needless to say this is an extremely frustrating and embarrassing error to make, and all of my versions will need to be redrawn. Apollo ER's versions are correctly scaled.

Just another example of the absolute need to check and recheck your work while drawing. ;)

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