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Thanks. I use 3cm in quads, on the above P-class cruiser you can see the difference. Behind the secondairies you find the new 3cm-quads, on the far stern and to the bow there still is are 2cm-quads implemented. For the 5,5cm I once did a design but somehow I lost it.
Tirpitz? ALVAMA made a great one. Maybe I do a BBG some day. I first try of a Tripitz with 2x20" twins didn't look to good. I think the look of that class is so familiar, we won't like extreme changes.

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I'm enjoying this thread; the Passau V1M-cruiser fascinates me. I'm not sure if it really makes sense; I mean, what would be the function of the missiles - anti-ship or land-attack? If they are the very same as the ones launched against London from the Continent I can't see the value of taking them to sea, but whatever, I like how this is developing - one of the more interesting AU's

This one was a pain in the a*s.
Had to move the whole superstructure to aft.

It has 16.1'' tripples.

But it is also very outdated.
If you want to use this one as 16'' tripple design, take the one's from my O project class.
With the barrels from the H39.
Since the O project would use a updated turret, wich also could be used for a base of a tripple turret.

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Ashley I realy enjoy looking at this thread, and so I would loke to comment on your 1944 Torpedoboot.
I find it strange that it has two fire-control directors on the bridge (with radar). Most ships of that size in that time period, had only one director if any. Apart from that it looks good.

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Thanks for your comment. But if you take a look at the 1936-class destroyer, you will find two early radars and two rangefinders on the superstructure. OK, the 1944 Torpedoboot has one rangefinder two small Wuerzburg-radars plus two earlier radars. So there is one device for airborne targets and another one for land/sea-based targets for each turret. Take a look at afterwar-designs. They carry even more of this stuff. I think it's ok.
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Granted that the Typ 1936 had two range-finders and two radars, however this are comletely different systems. The 1936 destroyer had 5 main gun turrets, and used the range-finders for fire-control, while the rafars were for search only, the radar aft of the second funnel is for back-up. Your 1944 torpedo-boat has two fire-control systems on the bridge, so at least move one of them aft, so in the event the bridge gets hit, you'll still have fire-control.

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"Never fear to try on something new. Remember that the Titanic was built by professionals, and the Ark by an amateur"

The introduction of the new Walther-submarines showed the need of a new type of subchaser. The top secret subs won't be unknown for long and it also won't take long until other navies have their own ghostships. Ah, however, here comes the Korvette / U-Jaeger 1946:

It makes 28 knots for escort missions on large warships, it's fitted with modern radar and aa-guns and for it's prime job, it has sophisticated sonar and a bunch of waterbomb-throwers. And there was some space left, so there's a set of torps installed, too. These torps will go after some time as they prove useless. But that's for later...

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The U-jaeger seems to be top-heavy, especially forward, which means she will bury her bows in any seas, making the gun mounting almost useless, in any sea exept for a dead-calm. I would also suggest you put some sort of search radar on the mast.

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"Never fear to try on something new. Remember that the Titanic was built by professionals, and the Ark by an amateur"

I think you refer to the turret. It's just a 3"-twin and should not be too heavy. Some search radar will follow.

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Now for a real queen of the northern seas: the third ship of the Graf Zeppelin-class. Massive improvements like side-mounted aa, an also side-mounted lift, state-of-the-art-radars, new aft, new bow, new bridge, lenghtened flightdeck, replaced vents. What's left? Engines are the same, placement of boats and crane didn't change, air wings are still with old-fashioned Ju-87D and Fw-190F & D. And for me very important: those ww1-style casemat guns are gone.
The Grossdeutschland should do a good job in the class of HMS Illoustrious and USS Essex.


For comprehension here is Hoods Graf Zeppelin:

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